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Why Coworking Spaces Are the Antidote to Brain Drain with Dimitris Manoukas
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Why Coworking Spaces Are the Antidote to Brain Drain with Dimitris Manoukas

Breaking the cycle: How peripheral Europe is using collaborative spaces to stop youth exodus and rebuild local economies

Episode Summary

“When there is such a place in a peripheral area, it’s usually a place that a young person will visit one way or another. You can reach out to them. You can walk around the neighbourhood because we’re talking about small communities, so you know each other.”

Dimitris is a PhD researcher at Panteion University of Social and Political Sciences in Athens, Research Fellow at Politécnico di Milano for the Remaking Horizon project on remote working policies, project lead for Rural Radicals, collaborator on EU and EEA-funded initiatives like ResMove and Cowork4YOUTH.

He’s a storyteller who changed his medium from literature to community infrastructure. His entire professional life reads as a search for a new, more empowering narrative for the people and places left behind by Europe’s dominant economic story.

He grew up in Greece’s intellectual centres—Thessaloniki and Athens—but now turns his focus to the periphery. The forgotten villages. The declining market towns. The suburbs where the last young person left decades ago.

He’s translating the language of the urban core and applying it to heartlands that desperately need new economic models.

The problem is stark: across Spain, France, Greece, and beyond, entire regions are being drained of their young talent. Not a trickle, but a haemorrhage.

The brightest minds pack bags and board planes from regional airports, heading for Berlin, Madrid, Barcelona, and London.

The term “brain drain” sounds clinical. But behind every statistic is a family losing a daughter, a village losing its future, a local economy losing the one person who might have started something new.

Dimitris isn’t just researching this crisis. He’s building the infrastructure to reverse it. His work poses a provocative question: what if coworking spaces are more than just remote work and good Wi-Fi?

What if they’re actually civic infrastructure—the new town squares where young people practise economic citizenship, where migrants find pathways to entrepreneurship, where peripheral communities discover they don’t need to move to the capital to build meaningful work?

This conversation explores how collaborative spaces can become mediators, bringing together digital opportunities, community networks, and practical skills training.

Bernie and Dimitris discuss everything from the cost-of-living crisis pushing people back to smaller towns, to the specific challenges facing Greece’s social enterprise sector, to why youth retention requires more than sporadic events—it demands organised, sustained policy that connects bottom-up needs with top-down support.

This episode matters because it challenges the narrative that economic opportunity only exists in major cities. For independent coworking operators, this masterclass helps you understand your role not just as a business owner, but as a community anchor.

For anyone working in peripheral regions, it’s proof that brain gain is possible when you build the proper infrastructure for connection, learning, and economic agency.


⏱ Timeline Highlights

[01:24] Dimitris introduces himself: PhD researcher studying youth engagement and employment policies in collaborative workspaces across peripheral Europe

[04:04] Bernie asks the sleep question—when does Dimitris rest with so many projects spinning simultaneously?

[06:45] “Peripheral doesn’t just mean rural—it can be a left-behind suburb or an old warehouse area inside a city”

[09:05] “Building your network is one of the hardest things young people need to do. The opportunities to build your network are very, very small nowadays.”

[12:23] The economic reality: young people move from Vigo to Barcelona and Madrid, taking their wealth with them—coworking spaces can anchor people locally

[16:00] “The cost-of-living crisis discourages young people from staying longer in big cities”

[17:51] “Many old institutions, like community centres, adopt coworking practices and rebrand themselves as hubs”

[18:04] Bernie asks about Dimitris’s ideal hub—the mental picture he carries

[20:19] “It’s really nice, in Greek, we say to listen to a good word, to a nice word every day when you go.”

[22:00] Where to find Dimitris: LinkedIn is the central hub for all his projects and deliverables

[24:01] Bernie’s closing: host a screening of the Actionism film in your coworking space to kickstart community conversations about collective action


The Peripheral Economy Problem

The language matters here. Dimitris doesn’t say “rural decline” like it’s inevitable. He says “peripheral areas” because geography isn’t the only factor. You can be peripheral in the heart of a city—an old industrial quarter where the factories closed, where services dried up, where nobody opens new businesses anymore.

These areas share common symptoms: population loss, ageing demographics, limited job opportunities, poor digital infrastructure, and a persistent sense of being left behind. The social and economic isolation feeds on itself. When young people leave, they take energy, ideas, purchasing power, and hope with them.

This isn’t just about losing workers. It’s about losing the social fabric. When the young leave, community organisations lose volunteers. Local businesses lose customers. Schools close. The remaining residents age in place, and the cycle becomes self-reinforcing.

Dimitris has spent years interviewing young people across Europe who are beneficiaries of employment and engagement initiatives run through collaborative spaces. What he’s discovered challenges the fatalistic narrative that these places are doomed.

The pattern he’s documenting suggests that with the proper infrastructure—both digital and social—peripheral regions can offer something cities increasingly can’t: affordability, community, and quality of life.

The pandemic proved this wasn’t just a theory. During lockdowns, knowledge workers fled expensive city centres for countryside cottages and coastal towns.

Some stayed. The question now is whether communities can build the right conditions to make staying attractive, not just temporarily tolerable.


Youth Engagement as Community Infrastructure

Dimitris describes a methodology that works: use collaborative spaces as the physical anchor for youth engagement, then build programming around what young people need.

First step: stop waiting for them to find you. Walk around the neighbourhood. In small communities, you know each other. Do customer research—ask young people what events they’d actually attend, what skills they want to learn, what barriers they face.

Then bring them into the space with other like-minded peers, some professionals, maybe policymakers, depending on the event. The magic isn’t in the formal programming—it’s in the informal networks that form when people start showing up regularly.

Someone mentions they need help with graphic design. Another person knows someone. A conversation leads to a collaboration. A collaboration leads to paid work.

Dimitris is careful to distinguish between engagement and employment. Engagement is the umbrella term—getting people out of isolation, connecting them to community, giving them a place to belong.

Employment is one of the direct or indirect effects of engagement. You can’t force job creation, but you can create the conditions where economic opportunity becomes more likely.

The spaces that succeed with youth retention share standard practices: they offer skills workshops on remote work, business setup, and digital tools. They host regular social events that aren’t explicitly about work.

They maintain a visible presence in the community rather than expecting everyone to find them online. And critically, they work with—not against—young people’s desire for meaningful work that doesn’t require leaving home.

What this conversation doesn’t capture is the toll. The grant applications that fail. The community members who leave anyway. The quiet moments when building this infrastructure feel like bailing out the ocean with a teaspoon.

Dimitris carries this work across multiple countries whilst the economic ground keeps shifting beneath everyone’s feet. For the exhausted UK operator listening to this, that tension between vision and viability isn’t abstract—it’s Tuesday afternoon.


The Digital Opportunity (and Its Economic Reality)

The cost-of-living crisis is reshaping where people can afford to live. Dimitris sees this as a convergence point: cities are becoming increasingly unaffordable, while remote work is becoming increasingly viable.

For the first time in generations, young people don’t automatically need to move to the capital to access knowledge economy jobs.

But let’s be clear about the economics. Remote work solves the income problem only if you already have clients, skills, and savings.

For local youth without university degrees or professional networks, “learn to code” isn’t a magic wand. Digital skills matter, but so does access to the networks that generate paid work in the first place.

Bernie often talks about how the middle class is being hollowed out, and coworking should wake up and pay attention before coworking becomes a privilege.

If peripheral spaces are to anchor economic opportunity, they must be affordable for local wage earners, not just for remote workers who bring London salaries to Greek villages.

The coworking space acts as a mediator, bringing all the threads together. It has the physical space, the people who run it with knowledge and networks, and the neutrality that allows different groups to mix.

It’s not a youth centre (which might feel too institutional) or a startup accelerator (which might feel too exclusive)—it’s a third place where anyone can show up, pay a reasonable rate, and find their people.

This is particularly crucial for retaining graduates who leave peripheral areas to study in bigger cities. The question isn’t whether they’ll leave initially—most will.

The question is whether something is compelling enough to bring them back after they finish their degree. A thriving collaborative workspace, connected to local businesses and remote opportunities, might be exactly that anchor.


The Hub as Civic Infrastructure

When Dimitris describes his ideal hub, he’s painting a picture that goes far beyond coworking industry clichés. Yes, it’s community-led and focuses on solidarity and the circular economy.

But listen to what else he includes: it’s a promoter of bottom-up policy-making whilst maintaining contact with policymakers themselves. It’s a safe space for all social groups. It’s a place where people listen to you, where you hear “a good word” every day when you arrive.

In Greek, they have this phrase about listening to a good word—a nice word—every day. For someone isolated in a peripheral area, or a migrant trying to find their footing, or a young person convinced they need to leave to matter, that daily affirmation changes everything. It’s not motivational fluff. It’s proof that you belong in a community that sees you.

This is coworking as civic infrastructure, not just commercial space.

The comparison to community centres rebranding as hubs isn’t accidental. In Ireland and the UK, old institutions that struggled with relevance are adopting coworking practices and finding new life. They’re recognising that the model—flexible membership, diverse programming, emphasis on connection—meets a need that traditional community centres often miss.

The key is moving beyond sporadic, occasional interventions. Youth retention and brain gain policies must have scope, structure, and sustained commitment.

A one-off skills workshop doesn’t change trajectories. A consistent programme, embedded in community infrastructure, can.

The best hubs function as mediators between multiple worlds: connecting young people to professionals, migrants to locals, and bottom-up needs to top-down resources.

They’re bridges. And in peripheral areas that feel cut off from power centres, bridge-building is political work even when it’s dressed up as workspace management.


The Greek Context: Building in the Ruins

The Greek debt crisis shadows everything Dimitris does. From roughly 2009 to 2018, the country was hollowed out by EU-imposed austerity.

Youth unemployment hit 50%. An entire generation became “NEETs”—not in education, employment, or training. The best and brightest left in droves.

But the crisis also created an opening. When traditional institutions—the state, banks, political parties—lost legitimacy, people looked for alternatives. Social enterprises and cooperatives emerged not just as businesses but as acts of social resistance and survival.

Dimitris’s work is a direct descendant of those solidarity movements. He’s part of a generation stepping into the void left by state failure, using EU funding (the irony isn’t lost on him) to build the infrastructure that should have existed all along.

The challenge for Greek social enterprise is immense: hostile legal frameworks, lack of access to finance, punitive taxation (some entrepreneurs pay 100% of annual social taxes in advance), and bureaucratic inertia.

Yet people persist. They’re not just fixing problems—they’re demonstrating that a different economic model is possible. This context matters because his Rural Radicals project explicitly focuses on “ethical branding” and “ethical tourism.”

This isn’t marketing fluff—it’s a deliberate positioning against extractive development models that profit outsiders whilst leaving communities depleted.

The tension is real: how do you build an alternative economy whilst partnering with tourism, real estate, and finance industries?

How can you accept EU funding without embracing EU ideology?

These aren’t abstract questions for Dimitris—they’re daily negotiations.


Migration, Coworking, and Economic Agency

The ResMove project tackles one of Europe’s most contentious issues: migration. In a political climate where migrants are often framed as threats or burdens, Dimitris and his collaborators are doing something quietly radical—using coworking spaces as integration infrastructure.

The approach rejects the charity model. Instead of treating migrants as passive recipients of aid, ResMove focuses on pathways to entrepreneurship and self-employment.

The assumption is simple but powerful: people with migrant backgrounds bring skills, experience, and economic potential. What they often lack is access to networks, knowledge of local business registration, and a community of peers.

Coworking spaces can provide all three. A woman from Aleppo who made pastries famous in her neighbourhood now needs to understand UK or Greek business regulations.

She needs customers. She needs people who’ll vouch for her quality. A collaborative workspace, if it’s doing its job correctly, can help with all of this.

The social innovation here isn’t technological—it’s relational. By creating spaces where migrants and locals work alongside each other daily, these casual interactions can foster trust. Trust leads to business referrals, collaborations, and the social capital necessary for economic participation.

This work directly challenges the narrative that migrants drain resources. Instead, it demonstrates how they can become active economic citizens when given infrastructure for connection rather than barriers to participation.


The Contradiction: EU-Funded Radicals

There’s a fascinating tension running through Dimitris’s entire portfolio. His projects use the language of grassroots empowerment: ”rural radicals,” “bottom-up,” “community-led.”

Yet the funding, reporting structures, and policy frameworks are inherently top-down, flowing from Brussels and national governments.

This creates a constant negotiation. How much of a project’s radical soul gets diluted in the grant application process?

When you’re accountable to EU reporting requirements and key performance indicators, how do you preserve the messy, emergent, authentic quality that makes real community work?

Dimitris operates as what you might call a “pragmatic radical.” He’s not throwing rocks from outside the system—he’s a skilled navigator of complex bureaucracies, channelling institutional power towards grassroots ends. He’s using the master’s tools to fix the master’s house.

The approach has obvious strengths: access to significant funding, legitimacy with policymakers, and the ability to work at scale across multiple countries.

But it also creates dependencies. When your project’s existence depends on Brussels approving your following grant, how truly radical can you be?

This isn’t a criticism—it’s the reality of doing social change work within existing power structures. The question for anyone in Dimitris’s position is how to maintain integrity and vision whilst accepting that the money comes with strings attached.


What Independent Operators Can Learn

If you run an independent coworking space, particularly in a smaller town or city, Dimitris’s work offers a blueprint.

You’re not competing with WeWork. You’re building civic infrastructure that can anchor economic opportunity in your community. That’s an entirely different value proposition.

Begin by understanding who’s leaving your area and why. Engage with young people about what would make staying appealing. Identify the gap between what is available locally and what they need to establish sustainable livelihoods. Often, it’s not just about jobs—it involves networks, skills, and the psychological reassurance that staying isn’t settling.

Position your space as the bridge. Connect remote workers with local businesses that need their skills.

Run workshops on business registration, tax compliance, and client acquisition. Provide a professional environment and peer community that makes working locally feel legitimate and sustainable.

The programming matters, but so does consistency. One-off events don’t change trajectories. Regular gatherings, sustained relationships, and visible presence in the community create the conditions for reversing the talent exodus.

Be explicit about your role. You’re not just offering desks—you’re building the infrastructure that lets people exercise economic agency in their home community. That’s citizenship work, even if you never use that word in your marketing.


Links & Resources

Dimitris Manoukas’s Work

European Coworking Partners

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Bernie’s Projects

Projects Mentioned in Episode


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